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Thought
I’ve brought up this thought before but encountered it again.
Thought
Todo: Examine these “seeking and found” cases, in different genres across languages
Example post with a title
What’s the song that has a brief melody that’s roughly “la la laaaa, la la laaaa, lala lala lalalala yeah/la”What’s the song that has a brief melody that’s roughly “la la laaaa, la la laaaa, lala lala lalalala yeah/la”
I was listening to a podcast where one host was trying to convey a song to another that she was lacking the name of. “You know that one that goes boop boop dee dee boop.” Despite the incoherence it was clear that some internal understanding of the song was present and the host was hearing precisely the song inside. But this was lost to the co-host and me, who at the end of the exercise were completely unable to name the song being presented. Further, the host who was performing is an extremely eloquent speaker who is extremely capable of Expression and still was giving us “boop dee doops.”
This was for a song that had vocals and Lyrics.
NOTE
As an aside, is there at some level a fear of actual Performance at play here at times? Where someone would resort to boops instead of an earnest song (and the emotions and vulnerability it entails)?
It made me think of a scenario where two dubstep songs (using the dubstep genre as a tool for a type of sound that is distinctly difficult for human reproduction) are being conveyed. What kind of connections could be made between the two to distinguish or convey the sound to another human being.
You’d probably use generic placeholders, things like the tone or metaphors. Like the podcaster you’d have this generic interface like Non-Lexical Vocables In Music and Scat Singing and the “doot doot doot” to convey a Reese bass or some dubstep groove. It is a resort to “nonsense.” (You’d pick syllables that best represent the instrument but how to convey simultaneous layers)
Someone more advanced in music would be able to define chord structures. A tool like Shazam might be able to fingerprint it. But it feels still like such a gulf between the song and what you are creating, almost like the task of speaking a “mountain” or speaking “this chair you crafted.”
To actually sing the dubstep song in a way that the listener can hear it, feels like the task of producing a chair you’ve made from your voice.
I imagine a producer of that genre of music (as someone who might have a specialized vocabulary or the means of producing a replica), and their attempt would reach some regions where replication would be possible, especially with trial and error or with another professional as the conversation partner.
Even thinking further, trying to convey the genre itself to someone in the past prior to the popularization of the genre, or even prior to electronic music (say a replication done in the 1600s).
I also imagine some kind of fully articulatable human mouth where the human voice can actually produce a dubstep song (in the manner a human professional can sing a traditional operatic song precisely and identically). A human mouth depicting “a drop”.
NOTE
I’ve seen producers who will get down a simple drum pattern and then perform the song construction by replacing these placeholder “doot doot doot” type of vocal interpretations with instruments.
It’s an interesting inversion where the song is being conversed and then replaced with the instrumentation.